Date   
Sunday Social canceled #RideCanceled

David Walker
 

Due to the anticipated high winds (gusts > 40 mph), I’m canceling the Sunday Social. 

David Walker

Sunday LAS Huddart Park Ride Changes

Ken Goldman
 

Hi Everyone,

Due to the anticipated high winds tomorrow, we have decided to move the starting point. We will also start 1/2 hour earlier.

The new starting point will be at the base of the Dumbarton Bridge at the parking lot at the end of Marshlands Road. This shortens the ride to about 32 miles.

We will meet at 8:30 and roll out at 8:45.

We’re hoping to get back 12-12:30.

Ken

Sunday PRS#6 Update - Change to Grant Ranch

Pat
 

Due to the high wind forecast for this Sunday, we have changed the route for this Sunday’s PRS ride.

We’re hoping there will be less wind exposure and opportunity for wind gusts with this alternate route.

We will start at the Niles Depot and head south to Grant Ranch.

Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start.


The cue sheet is attached below.





We hope to see you there,

Pat Wai and Bob Miller

Saturday, Feb. 8, M pace ride: Los Altos/Purissima/Elena

Donna Luporini Kaplan
 

Tomorrow we will have a M pace ride to Los Altos by way of Purissima and Elena. Coffee break in Los Altos at Le Boulanger. This is a nice ride through some hills of Los Altos.

 Meet you at Sprouts parking lot in Newark at 8:30am with wheels rolling at 8:45am. Details below. Cue sheet attached.

  ~ Don & Donna


Los Altos/Purissima/Elena
WhenSat, February 8, 8:30am – 1:00pm
WhereSprouts Farmers Market, 6399 Jarvis Ave, Newark, CA 94560, USA (map)
DescriptionLength: 44 miles; elevation: 1300 ft Terrain: 3; Pace: M
Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start. We'll ride across the Dumbarton Bridge into the Los Altos Hills with a coffee/snack break at Le Boulanger in Los Altos before heading back over the Dumbarton Bridge. Bring $$ for snacks/lunch.
RideWithGPS: http s://ridewithgps .com/routes/278 62076
Rain, significant chance of rain or poor riding condition cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.gr oups.io/g/info/ topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text a ride leader on the morning of the ride.
Don Fujino: fujino1@... v, (510) 301-2395 Donna Kaplan: luporini@... m, (415) 584-7621

Calendar update for this Saturday's CCRS

Colin Moy
 

Hi FFBC’ers,
Friendly reminder for tomorrow’s ride.  Please note the RideGPS link was updated yesterday with the correct start location and a different club has a start at the same location and time too.  Look for the three ride leaders listed below.

Route sheet is attached for your convenience to self print.  Hope to see you.

Thanks,
Colin, Vicki, and Jennifer 

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CCRS #4 - Collier Canyon
Saturday, February 8 9:00am – 1:00pm
Annually on February 8
Description:Length: 34 miles; Elevation: 1387 feet
Terrain: 2, 3 Pace: T, M

Join us for a great ride through Pleasanton, Dublin and Livermore through some surprisingly scenic, rural areas. Bring money for a coffee stop in Livermore. Remember these conditioning rides are open to all club members.

The  cue sheet is attached to this calendar event.  Please  print and bring your own copy.

RidewithGPS:   https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31887321.  
 
Rain or significant chance of rain cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics on the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text a ride leader on the morning of the ride.

Colin Moy: moyboys@..., (510) 690-7749
Vicki Robinson vickirobinson@... 510-813-2844
Jennifer Reungchai:  rulersakura@..., (510) 585-8248

LAS #3 Huddart Park

Lori Sommer
 

Hello LAS Riders,

Sunday we will cross the Dumbarton and climb Woodside Road and make our way up through Huddart Park.  The main group will meet at the upper lot of DonEdwards.   If you plan to reduce mileage and start riding at the base of the bridge, please stop at the upper lot, sign in, drive to the end of Marshlands, park and we will pick you up or you can meet us at the benches on the other side.  Just make sure you wait for Lori if you need to sign in.

The route sheet is attached.  Please print and bring it with you.  We look forward to riding with you.

Thanks,

Lori and Phil

9:00am
 LAS #3 Huddart Park
WhenSun, February 9, 9am – 2pm
WhereSTART: 2 Marshlands Road, Fremont (near Don Edwards Visitor Center restrooms) (map)
DescriptionMileage: 37.4 
Elevation: 1364’ 
Pace: M/T

LAS 3 takes us over the Bay, to sample scenic Peninsula roads. We will meet at Don Edwards and cross the Dumbarton Bridge. 

Remember to use the large upper parking lot rather than parking in the small lot near the Visitor Center Restrooms.  We will do our sign-in at the upper parking lot. 

We will ride behind Facebook and regroup at Bayfront Park. We will pass through some nice residential neighborhoods to reach Alameda de Las Pulgas and climb Woodside Road to Kings Mountain and into Huddart Park via Greer. Coffee is at Starbucks in Menlo Park and there are a couple of other places nearby if you want something else.

There are options to reduce climbing and mileage. Skip Marshlands and meet us at the base of the bridge which reduces the mileage about 4.5.  Or, skip Huddart entirely and reduce mileage by 2.6 and climbing apx. 550'.  Skip both and your route is 30miles and 831'.  Make the route your own.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31710215

We will be using the ridewithgps generated route sheet and you can print your own or use the one will will send out to FFBC’s https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics a few days before each ride. We ask that you print and bring it to the ride. 

We will maintain a Touring through Moderate pace (10 to 16 mph). No drops and regroups as needed. Extreme weather or construction may modify the route and rain cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics by the ride leader on the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

Lori Sommer lorimsommer@... 510-693-8624
Ken Goldman ken.goldman@... 510-791-1095 (H) 510-378-5027 (C)

FFBC PRS #6 - Corral Hollow

Pat
 

This week we head east through the green hills of Livermore up challenging Corral Hollow and a winding descent into Tracy.
Lunch is in Tracy. We return via Altamont Pass.
Attached is a copy of the cue sheet.  Please bring your own copy.  Below are details and RidewithGPS link for the ride.
Hope to see you there,
Bob Miller and Pat Wai
____________________________
PRS #6: Corral Hollow
Sunday, February 98:30am – 3:00pm
Rutan Dr & E Airway Blvd, Livermore, CA 94551, USA
Description:Length: 66 miles; Elevation: 2782 feet
Terrain: 3; Pace: M, M+

Park in the Park & Ride parking lot to the north of the Rutan and E. Airway Blvd. intersection.


Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start. This ride takes us into Tracy via Corral Hollow and returns via Altamont pass road. Meet at Livermore Park & Ride lot on E. Airway Blvd at Rutan Dr. Bring money for lunch en route.

The PDF cue sheet is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.

RidewithGPS: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29060495

Rain, significant chance of rain or poor riding condition cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

M: Pat Wai: patbikes59@..., (925) 784-9192
M: Bob Miller, Robert.miller7@..., 510-305-7172
M+ & B: Show & Go.  Experienced riders, please bring a sign-in sheet and incident reporting form.
Creator: Created by: Baruch SaeedCreated by: Baruch Saeed

Thursday Morning Coffee Ride

Lori Sommer
 

Hey Coffee Riders,

Alum Rock tomorrow and we will meet at 9:30AM at REI.  I hope to see you there.

Lori Sommer

Thursday, February 6
9:30am
 Thursday Morning Coffee Ride - REI to Alum Rock
WhenThu, February 6, 9:30am – 1:30pm
WhereREI, 43962 Fremont Blvd, Fremont, CA 94538, USA (map)
DescriptionLength: 34 miles Terrain: 2, 3; Pace: T, M We are riding to Alum Rock. Since REI isn't open use the facilities at Starbucks or wait until we reach the Jose Higuera Adobe in Milpitas.  We will ride along the foothills and once we get into the park, there are options to head straight to the Visitor's Center or climb the Inspiration Loop and/or Miguelita Road. Also, you don't have to go all the way to the park...you can turn early to coffee to reduce milage significantly. If you are a slow climber, but want to do the extra climbing, please be considerate of the group and turn around when you see the faster riders returning OR bring yourself to coffee on your own.  We will have lunch at Noah's Bagels/Starbucks ($) before heading back on a flat route, with no regroups.  Extreme temperatures, park closure, construction or the whim of the ride leader may modify the route. Rain cancels, check https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics, email or text me.  Lori Sommer: lorimsommer@..., 510-693-8624

Tues Hills M Pace: REVISED Start Location and Route (Cue Sheet attached)

Sophie CS
 

When: Tues Feb 4, 8:45 AM  - 12:45 PM 
Where: Shoreline Trail Parking (Base of Dumbarton) 808 Marshlands Rd. Fremont, CA
Length: 35.1 miles; Elevation 2780 Ft
Terrain: 3
Pace: M

Route:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29304799
Cue sheet: attached.

I apologize for the late notice:

We are taking a break from the Fremont Hills this month and will climb Old La Honda instead. Coffee/snack break will be at Sharon Park (Starbucks or Woodside Bakery).

Meet at 8:45 for a 9 AM start.

Re: FFBC PRS #5 ride up Old La Honda Road this Sunday

Donna Luporini Kaplan
 

It’s going to be a windy day.  The ride is on for now (M and M+), however I wanted to share this information that Barry provided:

 

...WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM SUNDAY TO 4 AM PSTMONDAY... 

 

* WHAT...Northwest winds 15 to 30 mph with gusts of 40 to 50 mph expected. 

 

* WHERE...Much of the San Francisco Bay Area and Central California Coast. 

 

* WHEN...From 4 AM Sunday to 4 AM PST Monday. 

 

* IMPACTS...Gusty winds could blow around unsecured objects. Tree limbs could be blown down and a few power outages may result.  

 

Also, here is a link to wind data on the actual route:  https://route-forecast.appspot.com/?controlPoints=&interval=0.5&metric=false&pace=C&rwgpsRoute=29252981&start=Sun%20Feb%202%202020%2009%3A00%3A00&strava_activity=

 

We will be open to input at the start of the ride, especially from those of you who ride to the start.

 

Donna

 

 

From: info@ffbc.groups.io <info@ffbc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Miller
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 8:37 PM
To: info@ffbc.groups.io
Subject: [public info] FFBC PRS #5 ride up Old La Honda Road this Sunday

 

There are a lot of club rides this weekend, so consider this latest PRS ride – a beautiful ride on the peninsula. Old La Honda Road is a gentle climb thru some lovely forested areas. From there, a cruise thru Woodside, Canada College and lunch in Redwood City. Our goal is to be back in time for the Super Bowl.

 

Attached is a copy of the cue sheet. Please bring your own copy.

 

Below is the details and RidewithGPS link for the ride.

 

Hope to see you there,


Bob and Donna

 

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PRS #5: Old La Honda

When: Sun, February 2, 8:30am – 2:00pm

Where: Sprouts Farmers Market, 6399 Jarvis Ave, Newark, CA 94560, USA (map)

Description: Length: 52 miles; Elevation: 3137 feet
Terrain: 4; Pace: M, M+

Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start. If you have never ridden Old La Honda road, be prepared for a quiet and scenic climb (about 3.5 mi.) up to Skyline Rd. We’ll head back to Woodside and then up by Canada into Redwood City with a lunch stop at Prima Deli.

Rain, significant chance of rain or poor riding condition cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics by the ride leader on the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

The cue sheet PDF is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.
RidewithGPS URL:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29252981

M: Donna Kaplan: luporini@..., (415) 584-7621
M: Bob Miller, Robert.miller7@..., 510-305-7172
M+ & B: Show & Go.  Experienced riders, please bring a sign-in sheet and incident reporting form.

 

PRS #5 Old LaHonda Brisk Version

Tim OHara
 

If anybody is interested, I will bring a sign-in sheet for a Brisk Version which will not include a lunch stop.  

Tim on his solo

FFBC PRS #5 ride up Old La Honda Road this Sunday

Robert Miller
 

There are a lot of club rides this weekend, so consider this latest PRS ride – a beautiful ride on the peninsula. Old La Honda Road is a gentle climb thru some lovely forested areas. From there, a cruise thru Woodside, Canada College and lunch in Redwood City. Our goal is to be back in time for the Super Bowl.

 

Attached is a copy of the cue sheet. Please bring your own copy.

 

Below is the details and RidewithGPS link for the ride.

 

Hope to see you there,


Bob and Donna

 

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PRS #5: Old La Honda

When: Sun, February 2, 8:30am – 2:00pm

Where: Sprouts Farmers Market, 6399 Jarvis Ave, Newark, CA 94560, USA (map)

Description: Length: 52 miles; Elevation: 3137 feet
Terrain: 4; Pace: M, M+

Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start. If you have never ridden Old La Honda road, be prepared for a quiet and scenic climb (about 3.5 mi.) up to Skyline Rd. We’ll head back to Woodside and then up by Canada into Redwood City with a lunch stop at Prima Deli.

Rain, significant chance of rain or poor riding condition cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics by the ride leader on the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

The cue sheet PDF is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.
RidewithGPS URL:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29252981

M: Donna Kaplan: luporini@..., (415) 584-7621
M: Bob Miller, Robert.miller7@..., 510-305-7172
M+ & B: Show & Go.  Experienced riders, please bring a sign-in sheet and incident reporting form.

 

1st Saturday of the Month ride: Calaveras Clockwise- M

Donna Luporini Kaplan
 

Hello,

Join us tomorrow as we ride Calaveras (the clockwise way). It’s always a beautiful ride, and even more so this time of year.

 

We start in downtown Niles. The cue sheet is attached (please print your own copy.)

RideWithGPS link: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29124284, 40.6 miles, 2336 ft.

More details below.

 

Hope to see you there.

Donna & Mike

 

………………………………

Calaveras Clockwise

When     Sat, February 1, 8:30am – 1:00pm

Where    Downtown Niles parking lot across from H St at Niles Blvd (map)

Description   Length: 41 miles; Elevation: 2335 feet
Terrain: 3; Pace: M

Riders arriving by car are asked to park in the unpaved parking area south of the train station.

Meet at 8:30 am for an 8:45 am start. This is our traditional "1st Saturday of the Month" ride. We will meet in the Niles parking lot and ride up Niles Canyon into Sunol then on to Calaveras. Our traditional route brings us out in Milpitas and we return via a route that stays close to the hills. Bring $$ for a coffee stop at Noah’s/Starbucks in Milpitas.

Rain, significant chance of rain or poor riding condition cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text the ride leader on the morning of the ride.

RidewithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29124284

M: Donna Kaplan: luporini@..., (415) 584-7621
M: Mike Brasseur: mbrasseur00@..., (510) 449-6233

 

Sat Brisk Calv CW

Tim OHara
 

Hi All,

Robin and I can lead the Brisk Calv CW ride on Sat.

Hope to see you there.  

510 363-2967

Re: CCRS #3 - The Animals - Cue sheet attached :-)

Yahoo-Julie
 

All - Cue Sheet attached.
Apologies,
Julie

On Thursday, January 30, 2020, 08:33:40 AM PST, Yahoo-Julie via Groups.Io <jmgilson1@...> wrote:


Hello all! With dry weather forecast for this weekend, pease join me, Michelle Dudly, and Jacqueline Mertz for the third ride in the series this Saturday. We go south and tackle “The Animals”. The route is a little more challenging than last week's ride with a few short "kickers". After “The Animals” we’ll get a well-deserved downhill along Mission Blvd. to downtown Niles. We’ll make our way from there around Quarry Lakes and back to the start. Optional coffee at Suju's after the ride. Remember these conditioning rides are open to all club members.

Helmet required; please pack water, spare tubes, pump or CO2.

Description: Length: 23 miles; Elevation: 989 feet
Terrain: 2, 3; Pace: T, M
WhenSat Feb 1, 2020 Meet 9:00 am - roll at 9:15 am.
WhereCentriPEDAL Bikes Thornton Plaza Retail Center, 3636 Thornton Ave, Fremont, CA 94536,  (map)

DRIVERS:  Please park on Moraine Street, not in the Centripedal/SuJus parking lot.


The cue sheet is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.

RidewithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12297641

Rain or significant chance of rain cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

- Julie Gilson
Ride leader contact info:
Julie Gilson: jmgilson1@..., (510) 468-0284
Jacqueline Mertz, jackiemertz@..., (510) 206-5179
Michelle Dudley; mdudley13@...; (408) 230-5209




Re: CCRS #3 - The Animals

Florence Amador Mincin
 

Hi Julie,
I didn't get the attachment. Or am I just blind....

Florence

On Thursday, January 30, 2020, 8:33:39 AM PST, Yahoo-Julie via Groups.Io <jmgilson1@...> wrote:


Hello all! With dry weather forecast for this weekend, pease join me, Michelle Dudly, and Jacqueline Mertz for the third ride in the series this Saturday. We go south and tackle “The Animals”. The route is a little more challenging than last week's ride with a few short "kickers". After “The Animals” we’ll get a well-deserved downhill along Mission Blvd. to downtown Niles. We’ll make our way from there around Quarry Lakes and back to the start. Optional coffee at Suju's after the ride. Remember these conditioning rides are open to all club members.

Helmet required; please pack water, spare tubes, pump or CO2.

Description: Length: 23 miles; Elevation: 989 feet
Terrain: 2, 3; Pace: T, M
WhenSat Feb 1, 2020 Meet 9:00 am - roll at 9:15 am.
WhereCentriPEDAL Bikes Thornton Plaza Retail Center, 3636 Thornton Ave, Fremont, CA 94536,  (map)

DRIVERS:  Please park on Moraine Street, not in the Centripedal/SuJus parking lot.


The cue sheet is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.

RidewithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12297641

Rain or significant chance of rain cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

- Julie Gilson
Ride leader contact info:
Julie Gilson: jmgilson1@..., (510) 468-0284
Jacqueline Mertz, jackiemertz@..., (510) 206-5179
Michelle Dudley; mdudley13@...; (408) 230-5209




CCRS #3 - The Animals

Yahoo-Julie
 

Hello all! With dry weather forecast for this weekend, pease join me, Michelle Dudly, and Jacqueline Mertz for the third ride in the series this Saturday. We go south and tackle “The Animals”. The route is a little more challenging than last week's ride with a few short "kickers". After “The Animals” we’ll get a well-deserved downhill along Mission Blvd. to downtown Niles. We’ll make our way from there around Quarry Lakes and back to the start. Optional coffee at Suju's after the ride. Remember these conditioning rides are open to all club members.

Helmet required; please pack water, spare tubes, pump or CO2.

Description: Length: 23 miles; Elevation: 989 feet
Terrain: 2, 3; Pace: T, M
WhenSat Feb 1, 2020 Meet 9:00 am - roll at 9:15 am.
WhereCentriPEDAL Bikes Thornton Plaza Retail Center, 3636 Thornton Ave, Fremont, CA 94536,  (map)

DRIVERS:  Please park on Moraine Street, not in the Centripedal/SuJus parking lot.


The cue sheet is attached to this calendar event.  Please print and bring your own copy.

RidewithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12297641

Rain or significant chance of rain cancels. A ride cancellation email will be sent to https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics the morning of the ride if it is being cancelled (no email means the ride is on). If you are unsure of the ride status, call or text ride leader on the morning of the ride.

- Julie Gilson
Ride leader contact info:
Julie Gilson: jmgilson1@..., (510) 468-0284
Jacqueline Mertz, jackiemertz@..., (510) 206-5179
Michelle Dudley; mdudley13@...; (408) 230-5209




Thursday Morning Coffee Ride

Lori Sommer
 




Hello Thursday Riders,

It’s the fifth Thursday of the month - Pizza Party! 
Let’s ride some hills then have some lunch. Lunch is optional, of course. You can just come for the ride. 
I hope to see you tomorrow. 

Lori


 



9:30am
 Thursday Morning Coffee Ride to Zachary's Pizza
WhenThu, January 30, 9:30am – 1:00pm
WhereCentral Park in San Ramon (12501 Alcosta Blvd) (map)
DescriptionLength: 19 miles; Elevation: 1400 feet;
Terrain: 3,4 Pace: T,M

Meet at Central Park in San Ramon. Directions to the parking lot from Fremont: 680N, exit Bollinger, right turn onto Bollinger, left at the light on Marketplace (the turn is finally open again, parking lot on the RHS). 

We will climb to the top of Norris Canyon (looking for the miniature donkeys and peacocks along the way) and then turn back and head up Bollinger Canyon and look for the ostrich. Both climbs are out and back so you can turn around any time you feel like it. 

After a regroup at Las Trampas parking lot, we will head back to our cars and drive the couple of miles to Zachary's so we don't have to ride after eating (and Walt doesn't have to worry about riding with his leftovers in a pizza box). No one left behind. Bring $ for lunch. 

If you know you are coming please RSVP to me the day before so I can make reservations! LAST minute additions are okay too.  Extreme temperatures or construction or whim of the ride leader can modify the route. Rain cancels, check yahoo group, email or call me.

RidewithGPS URL:
 Lori Sommer lorimsommer@gmail.com 510-693-8624

Re: [member discussion] [public info] Heads-up - cross walk by Facebook and potential moving violation citation

Glenn Kirby
 

Found this in the Menlo Park Municipal Code.  But I did not find any mention of riding in crosswalks that connect sections of bike paths or routes.

11.56.120 Restriction of operation of bicycles on business district pedestrian facilities.Share

It is unlawful for any person to ride or operate a bicycle on any sidewalk within any business or commercial districts and zones within the city. (Ord. 900 § 1, 2000).


Glenn


On Jan 28, 2020, at 7:03 PM, mdavis94536 <mark@...> wrote:

This is an important point, that also applies to riding on the sidewalk.  State law now expressly permits riding your bike on the sidewalk, but that can also be overridden by loca laws.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:58 PM Jay Gilson <jaymgilson@...> wrote:
In the law you cite there is a section that says... "...crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance."

Maybe there is a local ordinance that is more restrictive than the state rules.

I don't know and the most important issue is there is an easy way to avoid a ticket... just walk your bike.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:27 PM Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:
And if it's illegal to ride through the crossing when facing traffic, it would also be illegal to ride when facing traffic ALONG THE ENTIRE PATH. We'd have to walk our bikes from Fremont to Menlo Park, because the path is on the left side of the road.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:20 PM Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:
Since 2010, bicycling is supposed to be legal in crosswalks and "bicycle path crossings":


This bill would define a “bicycle path crossing” as either that portion of a roadway included within the prolongation or connection of the boundary lines of a bike path, as defined, at intersections where the intersecting roadways meet at approximately right angles or as any portion of a roadway distinctly indicated for bicycle crossing by lines or other markings on the surface, except as specified.
This bill would also permit the operation of bicycles on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing.
21650(g) This section does not prohibit the operation of bicycles on any shoulder of a highway, on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance.

That location is certainly a "bicycle path crossing". The bill/law says nothing about direction. If they meant for you to walk your bike when facing traffic, I think they would have written it that way. Laws are supposed to be obvious, not logic puzzles.

(But I totally get not wanting to get into a legal discussion with police officers.)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:33 PM Jay Gilson <jaymgilson@...> wrote:
Last week on the Tuesday hills ride we had an interesting encounter with the Menlo Park police.  

We were heading west bound on the bike path with the intent to turn left on Willow (the normal path that so many of our rides utilize).  We waited for the light and the  WALK indicator to change.  As we had done the in the past, we got on our bikes and rode in the crosswalk, and proceeded to turn left onto Willow as we have done a hundred times before.  On the shoulder there were two Menlo cops and they stopped us.  

After an extended discussion the message from the police is to walk the bike in the crosswalk both at Willow and University.  The primary issue they had was us riding our bikes against traffic.  I think the congestion at the Willow intersection with the increase in cars going into Facebook, the Facebook bikes, the Facebook pedestrians and I am sure a myriad number of incidents, the police are really cracking down. Luckily we avoided a ticket(s).

To avoid walking I suppose you could cross at University (walking your bike) to the north side of HWY 84, ride around Facebook on the bay side and then ride through the Facebook tunnel or use the crosswalk (and I guess you can ride as you will be going with traffic at that point).  Or you just walk in the crosswalk at Willow.

Just be aware this looks to be a big issue with the Menlo Park Police and I am sure it they catch a bicyclist doing what we did a likely outcome is a ticket....

Jay Gilson








--
Mark

Re: [member discussion] [public info] Heads-up - cross walk by Facebook and potential moving violation citation

mdavis94536
 

This is an important point, that also applies to riding on the sidewalk.  State law now expressly permits riding your bike on the sidewalk, but that can also be overridden by loca laws.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:58 PM Jay Gilson <jaymgilson@...> wrote:
In the law you cite there is a section that says... "...crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance."

Maybe there is a local ordinance that is more restrictive than the state rules.

I don't know and the most important issue is there is an easy way to avoid a ticket... just walk your bike.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:27 PM Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:
And if it's illegal to ride through the crossing when facing traffic, it would also be illegal to ride when facing traffic ALONG THE ENTIRE PATH. We'd have to walk our bikes from Fremont to Menlo Park, because the path is on the left side of the road.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:20 PM Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:
Since 2010, bicycling is supposed to be legal in crosswalks and "bicycle path crossings":


This bill would define a “bicycle path crossing” as either that portion of a roadway included within the prolongation or connection of the boundary lines of a bike path, as defined, at intersections where the intersecting roadways meet at approximately right angles or as any portion of a roadway distinctly indicated for bicycle crossing by lines or other markings on the surface, except as specified.
This bill would also permit the operation of bicycles on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing.
21650(g) This section does not prohibit the operation of bicycles on any shoulder of a highway, on any sidewalk, on any bicycle path within a highway, or along any crosswalk or bicycle path crossing, where the operation is not otherwise prohibited by this code or local ordinance.

That location is certainly a "bicycle path crossing". The bill/law says nothing about direction. If they meant for you to walk your bike when facing traffic, I think they would have written it that way. Laws are supposed to be obvious, not logic puzzles.

(But I totally get not wanting to get into a legal discussion with police officers.)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:33 PM Jay Gilson <jaymgilson@...> wrote:
Last week on the Tuesday hills ride we had an interesting encounter with the Menlo Park police.  

We were heading west bound on the bike path with the intent to turn left on Willow (the normal path that so many of our rides utilize).  We waited for the light and the  WALK indicator to change.  As we had done the in the past, we got on our bikes and rode in the crosswalk, and proceeded to turn left onto Willow as we have done a hundred times before.  On the shoulder there were two Menlo cops and they stopped us.  

After an extended discussion the message from the police is to walk the bike in the crosswalk both at Willow and University.  The primary issue they had was us riding our bikes against traffic.  I think the congestion at the Willow intersection with the increase in cars going into Facebook, the Facebook bikes, the Facebook pedestrians and I am sure a myriad number of incidents, the police are really cracking down. Luckily we avoided a ticket(s).

To avoid walking I suppose you could cross at University (walking your bike) to the north side of HWY 84, ride around Facebook on the bay side and then ride through the Facebook tunnel or use the crosswalk (and I guess you can ride as you will be going with traffic at that point).  Or you just walk in the crosswalk at Willow.

Just be aware this looks to be a big issue with the Menlo Park Police and I am sure it they catch a bicyclist doing what we did a likely outcome is a ticket....

Jay Gilson




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Mark