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moderated Time Change - Thursday Morning Coffee Ride

Lori Sommer
 

Hello,

Thanks so much to Randy, Becky and Diana for putting together such a fun event last night.  It was great to see everyone relaxing and having fun.

We will be starting the Thursday Morning Coffee Rides a half-hour later to 9:30AM as requested.  The traffic should be a bit better and maybe we the sun will have time to increase the temperature too.
I'm sorry for the late notice and especially to those that have to reprint their calendar for December - Walt!

I hope to see you Thursday. 

Lori Sommer


moderated Re: FFBC Party tonight

Jan Leimert
 

Yes, thank you Randy, Diana & Becky for all you did to make it a wonderful party!

Jan


On Dec 2, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Joyce via Groups.Io <notes4cindy2010@...> wrote:

Great party. Kudos to planners, Becky, Diane and Randy!

Joyce

“Gratitude makes sense of our past, makes peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow. ~Melody Beattie


On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Randy Fewel <jailteacher@...> wrote:

A lot of members have asked about the timing for our Holiday Party tonight: 

Appetizers at 4:00

Buffet opens at 5:00

Bring your camera for “Kodak moments”. J

See you at Massimo’s!

Randy Fewel


moderated Re: FFBC Party tonight

Joyce <notes4cindy2010@...>
 

Great party. Kudos to planners, Becky, Diane and Randy!

Joyce

“Gratitude makes sense of our past, makes peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow. ~Melody Beattie


On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Randy Fewel <jailteacher@...> wrote:

A lot of members have asked about the timing for our Holiday Party tonight: 

Appetizers at 4:00

Buffet opens at 5:00

Bring your camera for “Kodak moments”. J

See you at Massimo’s!

Randy Fewel


moderated Re: FFBC Party tonight

Lambert Caufield <lambertcaufield@...>
 

thanks

On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 12:22:23 PM PST, Randy Fewel <jailteacher@...> wrote:


A lot of members have asked about the timing for our Holiday Party tonight: 

Appetizers at 4:00

Buffet opens at 5:00

Bring your camera for “Kodak moments”. J

See you at Massimo’s!

Randy Fewel


moderated FFBC Party tonight

Randy Fewel
 

A lot of members have asked about the timing for our Holiday Party tonight: 

Appetizers at 4:00

Buffet opens at 5:00

Bring your camera for “Kodak moments”. J

See you at Massimo’s!

Randy Fewel


moderated Calaveras Clockwise /1st Saturday of the Month - CANCELLED

Donna Luporini Kaplan
 

Hello FFBC-

 

The majority of the weather sites are forecasting rain between 4:00 AM – 11:00 AM, therefore Mike and I are canceling tomorrow's ride.  It now turns into a Show & Go.  If you do decide to ride, please be careful on the wet roads.

 

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year.  I am hoping that we will be able to finally return to our traditional Calaveras Clockwise ride on the 1st Saturday of the Year - January 5th.

 

~Donna Kaplan and Mike Brasseur

 

 

………………………………

Calaveras Clockwise

When     Sat, December 1, 8:30am – 1:00pm

Where    Downtown Niles parking lot across from H St at Niles Blvd (map)

Description    Length: 41 miles; Elevation: 2000 feet Terrain: 3; Pace: M, B

Meet at 8:30 for an 8:45 start. This is our traditional "1st Saturday of the Month" ride. However, due to the closure of Calaveras Road, we will ride to Alum Rock Park instead. The route will still bring us out into Milpitas and we will still return via a route that stays close to the hills. Bring $$ for a coffee stop at Noah's/Starbucks in Milpitas. Rain or a serious threat of rain cancels so please check https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics on the morning of the ride (or contact one of the ride leaders) if rain threatens.
RideWithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/18039483

Donna Kaplan: luporini@..., (415) 584-7621
Mike Brasseur: mbrasseur00@...
, 510-449-6233

 


moderated Canceled - Thursday Morning Coffee Ride

Lori Sommer
 

Hello Thursday Morning Coffee Riders!

The forecast is for rain all morning so I'm canceling tomorrow's ride but it turns into a Show and Go if you want to ride in the rain.  

I hope to see everyone at the party on Sunday evening.

Lori

Thursday, November 29
9:00am
 
WhenThu, November 29, 9:00am – 1:30pm
Wheregravel lot across from the Sunol Train Station (map)
DescriptionDescription:Length: 25-35 miles Terrain: 2, 3; Pace: T, M This week the route starts from the gravel lot across from the Sunol Train Station. There are lots of places we can go and sometimes a portion of the climbing is optional and mileage can be reduced. Our favorite destinations include the Corner Bakery or Peet's via Kilkare, the water tower and Bernal Bump or maybe out to Panama Red Coffee in Livermore by way of Sycamore Grove/Holdener Park or the climbs out by Signal Hill and the fun descent on Croak Road with lunch at Panera in Livermore. Another favorite is Denica's in Dublin via Windemere. Bring $ for coffee or lunch. Extreme temperatures, construction or the whim of the ride leader may modify the route. Rain cancels, check https://ffbc.groups.io/g/info/topics, email or call me. Lori Sommer lorimsommer@... 510-693-8624


moderated Mid-Week Morning Ride 11/28/18 Canceled

Al Quintana
 

The roads are wet, and the weather forecast indicates there's a good chance for showers in the area this morning, so I'm canceling today's Mid-Week Morning Ride. The ride now becomes a Show and Go. Be careful out there!

Al Q.

"You don't stop playing because you get old. You get old because you stop playing."


moderated MMRR is On!

Robert Tashjian
 

Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel! Looks to be a beautiful day tomorrow, it will be good to finally get to ride the MMRR.

 

Hope to see you tomorrow,

Rob

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Robert Tashjian

rob@...

 


moderated Re: December Ride Calendar

Dennis Dong <ronincopp@...>
 

Both Robin O'Hara and Louis Friedenberg will now be leading the December MMRR rides.  
Thanks to both Robin & Louis!

There is still the Women's Social Ride on December 30th in need of a ride leader.

Dennis Dong

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 7:02 PM Dennis Dong <ronincopp@...> wrote:
Happy Holidays!  Once again it's that time to update the next month's ride calendar.  Ride leaders, please check the calendar for any corrections or additions.  

Two items of note:
1)  The FFBC Holiday Party is on Sunday, December 2nd
2)  A new ride on Saturday, December 29th.  Gary Smith will be leading a ride from downtown Niles to Sandy Wool Lake in Milpitas

I need ride leaders for the following scheduled rides:
1)  Women's Social Ride, Sunday, December 30th
2)  MMRR, Mondays
Please let me know if you can take any of the spots.

Thanks and ride safe!
Dennis Dong
Ride Coordinator


moderated December Ride Calendar

Dennis Dong <ronincopp@...>
 

Happy Holidays!  Once again it's that time to update the next month's ride calendar.  Ride leaders, please check the calendar for any corrections or additions.  

Two items of note:
1)  The FFBC Holiday Party is on Sunday, December 2nd
2)  A new ride on Saturday, December 29th.  Gary Smith will be leading a ride from downtown Niles to Sandy Wool Lake in Milpitas

I need ride leaders for the following scheduled rides:
1)  Women's Social Ride, Sunday, December 30th
2)  MMRR, Mondays
Please let me know if you can take any of the spots.

Thanks and ride safe!
Dennis Dong
Ride Coordinator


moderated Re: Los Altos ride is ON!

mbrasseur00
 

Los Altos ride is on!!  No rain in the forecast. Roads are a bit wet to start but should dry out so we will ride.

See you there.

Mike and Lous.



On Nov 22, 2018, at 4:31 PM, mbrasseur00 via Groups.Io <mbrasseur00@...> wrote:

Weather permitting, Louis and I will lead a ride to Los Altos by way of Purissima and Elena. Coffee break in Los Altos at Le Boulanger. 

M Pace

~44 miles, 1365 feet elevation.

RideWithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27862076

Meet you at Sprouts in Newark at 8:30am with wheels rolling at 8:45am.

Hope to see you there.

Mike and Louis




moderated Friday Bike Club Ride 11/23/18 Canceled

Al Quintana
 

Hi all,

Well, the weather forecast calls for continued rain all day tomorrow, so I'm canceling another Friday Bike Club Ride. The ride now becomes a Show and Go.

I hope we have better luck next week!


Al


moderated Los Altos ride this Saturday 11/24 M pace

mbrasseur00
 

Weather permitting, Louis and I will lead a ride to Los Altos by way of Purissima and Elena. Coffee break in Los Altos at Le Boulanger. 

M Pace

~44 miles, 1365 feet elevation.

RideWithGPS URL: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27862076

Meet you at Sprouts in Newark at 8:30am with wheels rolling at 8:45am.

Hope to see you there.

Mike and Louis



moderated Mid-Week Morning Ride 11/21/18 Cancelled

Al Quintana
 

Well, the good news is that the Air Quality Forecast for tomorrow is good. The bad news (for us anxious cyclists) is that the main reason for the improvement is the arrival of rain.

I was hoping to go for a short ride tomorrow before the rain arrives, but the forecasts and websites that I've seen predict the precipitation to begin before the ride start time. Therefore, I'm cancelling tomorrow's Mid-Week Morning Ride. ☹ By FFBC rule, the ride now becomes a Show and Go. Be safe!!

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!! 


Animated GIF


Al Q.

"You don't stop playing because you get old. You get old because you stop playing."


moderated For Sale - Men's Giant Contend SL 2 Disc size XS $575

Roy Taylor
 

My son has outgrown his road bike. The bike is 2 years old and is in excellent condition.

Giant Contend SL 2 Disc size X Small. Suitable for someone 5'  to 5' 5".

See blue book listing here - 

Spec below.
If anyone is interested please email me at roy_a_taylor@....

Thanks

Components
Frame
ALUXX SL-grade aluminum
Fork
Composite with alloy OverDrive steerer
Rims/Wheels
Giant SR-2 Disc
Hubs
Giant Sport Tracker Road Disc, [F] 100x12mm axle 28h, [R] 142x12mm axle, 32h
Spokes
Stainless steel, 14g
Tires
Giant P-SL 1, Front and Rear Specific, 700x25, Folding
Crankset
Tiagra, 34/50
Bottom Bracket
Shimano, Press fit
Chain
KMC X10
Front Derailleur
Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur
Shimano Tiagra
Rear Cogs
Shimano Tiagra 11x32, 10-speed
Shifters
Shimano Tiagra
Handlebars
Giant Connect, 31.8mm
Stem
Giant Sport
Brake Levers
Shimano Tiagra
Brakes
TRP Spyre C, mechanical disc, 160mm
Pedals
Platform, Caged
Saddle
Giant Contact Forward
Seat Post
Giant D-Fuse, Composite





moderated Air quality site

Maureen O&#39;Boyle
 

Here is another one.  As with any data, the trends are meaningful. The numbers are relative. And you should always use your common sense

https://www.purpleair.com/map#10.89/37.64/-122.0329/0.3


On Nov 19, 2018, at 10:09 PM, Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:

Are you being facetious, Steve? LOL 😉

On Nov 19, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Steve Snyder <hockeyhouse99@...> wrote:

Oh, please don't take this off-line!!!!!

--Steve

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I think that we should take this conversation offline, as we are getting to a level of complexity that may not interest everyone else in the club, but the professor’s point is that the AQI instrumentation itself is not as accurate, nor as specific, as the instrumentation that he uses in the lab, e.g. mass spectrometry.

You can email me offline at “laszlonick@...” if you’d like to discuss this further.

Nick 🤓

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link. So it looks like the AQI is based on whichever component is worst:

"The pollutant that reports the highest index determines the AQI (or AQHI, PSI, API, etcetera). For instance, if measurements for Beijing air quality show that PM2.5 has an AQI of 150 and all other pollutants report lesser than 150, then the AQI will be based on the PM2.5 levels."

So is PM 2.5 the index to focus on? Right now, that seems to be where the problem is.



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:33 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, here’s a link that breaks it all down:  


The professor said that if you’re a cyclist, how much automobile traffic there is on the roads that we frequent on our bikes, with cars only a few feet away from us, spewing out their exhaust in our faces, is much more of a consideration, hence we should all focus on riding on roads with less vehicular traffic, instead of worrying about the visible but far less harmful smoke that we can see outside this past week or so.

Nick


On Nov 19, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

If the AQI is the wrong number, which number(s) should we pay attention to?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:01 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
He said it’s irrelevant and the least scientific method of extrapolating the most meaningful particulates.  He considers AQI an entertaining number at best.  The instruments he uses in lab conditions are far better.

On Nov 19, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

What does the professor think of the air quality index?


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
According to the professor of environmental science from Stanford that I just spoke with at my job, the exhaust fumes from cars is far more concerning for our health than the smoke-related particulates that have temporarily contaminated our atmospheric conditions.  He said that if what cars spew out were as visible as the smoke that we’ve been dealing with, then people would wear masks all the time.  I shall therefore be riding tomorrow.  Anyone care to join me?

By the way, I miss you guys!

Nick 🚴‍♂️

On Nov 19, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Vanessa McDonnell <vanessa@...> wrote:

Due to the continuing poor air quality tomorrow’s Tuesday Hills ride is cancelled. Per club rules the ride is now a show and go.

We have a lot to be thankful for but unfortunately our list doesn’t include air quality. 

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moderated Re: Tuesday Hills B Pace - cancelled for 11/20

Nick Laszlo
 

Are you being facetious, Steve? LOL 😉

On Nov 19, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Steve Snyder <hockeyhouse99@...> wrote:

Oh, please don't take this off-line!!!!!

--Steve

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I think that we should take this conversation offline, as we are getting to a level of complexity that may not interest everyone else in the club, but the professor’s point is that the AQI instrumentation itself is not as accurate, nor as specific, as the instrumentation that he uses in the lab, e.g. mass spectrometry.

You can email me offline at “laszlonick@...” if you’d like to discuss this further.

Nick 🤓

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link. So it looks like the AQI is based on whichever component is worst:

"The pollutant that reports the highest index determines the AQI (or AQHI, PSI, API, etcetera). For instance, if measurements for Beijing air quality show that PM2.5 has an AQI of 150 and all other pollutants report lesser than 150, then the AQI will be based on the PM2.5 levels."

So is PM 2.5 the index to focus on? Right now, that seems to be where the problem is.



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:33 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, here’s a link that breaks it all down:  


The professor said that if you’re a cyclist, how much automobile traffic there is on the roads that we frequent on our bikes, with cars only a few feet away from us, spewing out their exhaust in our faces, is much more of a consideration, hence we should all focus on riding on roads with less vehicular traffic, instead of worrying about the visible but far less harmful smoke that we can see outside this past week or so.

Nick


On Nov 19, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

If the AQI is the wrong number, which number(s) should we pay attention to?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:01 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
He said it’s irrelevant and the least scientific method of extrapolating the most meaningful particulates.  He considers AQI an entertaining number at best.  The instruments he uses in lab conditions are far better.

On Nov 19, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

What does the professor think of the air quality index?


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
According to the professor of environmental science from Stanford that I just spoke with at my job, the exhaust fumes from cars is far more concerning for our health than the smoke-related particulates that have temporarily contaminated our atmospheric conditions.  He said that if what cars spew out were as visible as the smoke that we’ve been dealing with, then people would wear masks all the time.  I shall therefore be riding tomorrow.  Anyone care to join me?

By the way, I miss you guys!

Nick 🚴‍♂️

On Nov 19, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Vanessa McDonnell <vanessa@...> wrote:

Due to the continuing poor air quality tomorrow’s Tuesday Hills ride is cancelled. Per club rules the ride is now a show and go.

We have a lot to be thankful for but unfortunately our list doesn’t include air quality. 

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moderated Re: Tuesday Hills B Pace - cancelled for 11/20

Steve Snyder
 

Oh, please don't take this off-line!!!!!

--Steve

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I think that we should take this conversation offline, as we are getting to a level of complexity that may not interest everyone else in the club, but the professor’s point is that the AQI instrumentation itself is not as accurate, nor as specific, as the instrumentation that he uses in the lab, e.g. mass spectrometry.

You can email me offline at “laszlonick@...” if you’d like to discuss this further.

Nick 🤓

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link. So it looks like the AQI is based on whichever component is worst:

"The pollutant that reports the highest index determines the AQI (or AQHI, PSI, API, etcetera). For instance, if measurements for Beijing air quality show that PM2.5 has an AQI of 150 and all other pollutants report lesser than 150, then the AQI will be based on the PM2.5 levels."

So is PM 2.5 the index to focus on? Right now, that seems to be where the problem is.



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:33 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, here’s a link that breaks it all down:  


The professor said that if you’re a cyclist, how much automobile traffic there is on the roads that we frequent on our bikes, with cars only a few feet away from us, spewing out their exhaust in our faces, is much more of a consideration, hence we should all focus on riding on roads with less vehicular traffic, instead of worrying about the visible but far less harmful smoke that we can see outside this past week or so.

Nick


On Nov 19, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

If the AQI is the wrong number, which number(s) should we pay attention to?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:01 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
He said it’s irrelevant and the least scientific method of extrapolating the most meaningful particulates.  He considers AQI an entertaining number at best.  The instruments he uses in lab conditions are far better.

On Nov 19, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

What does the professor think of the air quality index?


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
According to the professor of environmental science from Stanford that I just spoke with at my job, the exhaust fumes from cars is far more concerning for our health than the smoke-related particulates that have temporarily contaminated our atmospheric conditions.  He said that if what cars spew out were as visible as the smoke that we’ve been dealing with, then people would wear masks all the time.  I shall therefore be riding tomorrow.  Anyone care to join me?

By the way, I miss you guys!

Nick 🚴‍♂️

On Nov 19, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Vanessa McDonnell <vanessa@...> wrote:

Due to the continuing poor air quality tomorrow’s Tuesday Hills ride is cancelled. Per club rules the ride is now a show and go.

We have a lot to be thankful for but unfortunately our list doesn’t include air quality. 

V.
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moderated Re: Tuesday Hills B Pace - cancelled for 11/20

Nick Laszlo
 

Hi Michael,

I think that we should take this conversation offline, as we are getting to a level of complexity that may not interest everyone else in the club, but the professor’s point is that the AQI instrumentation itself is not as accurate, nor as specific, as the instrumentation that he uses in the lab, e.g. mass spectrometry.

You can email me offline at “laszlonick@...” if you’d like to discuss this further.

Nick 🤓

On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link. So it looks like the AQI is based on whichever component is worst:

"The pollutant that reports the highest index determines the AQI (or AQHI, PSI, API, etcetera). For instance, if measurements for Beijing air quality show that PM2.5 has an AQI of 150 and all other pollutants report lesser than 150, then the AQI will be based on the PM2.5 levels."

So is PM 2.5 the index to focus on? Right now, that seems to be where the problem is.



On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:33 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, here’s a link that breaks it all down:  


The professor said that if you’re a cyclist, how much automobile traffic there is on the roads that we frequent on our bikes, with cars only a few feet away from us, spewing out their exhaust in our faces, is much more of a consideration, hence we should all focus on riding on roads with less vehicular traffic, instead of worrying about the visible but far less harmful smoke that we can see outside this past week or so.

Nick


On Nov 19, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

If the AQI is the wrong number, which number(s) should we pay attention to?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:01 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
He said it’s irrelevant and the least scientific method of extrapolating the most meaningful particulates.  He considers AQI an entertaining number at best.  The instruments he uses in lab conditions are far better.

On Nov 19, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Michael Graff <michael.graff@...> wrote:

What does the professor think of the air quality index?


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM Nick Laszlo <laszlonick@...> wrote:
According to the professor of environmental science from Stanford that I just spoke with at my job, the exhaust fumes from cars is far more concerning for our health than the smoke-related particulates that have temporarily contaminated our atmospheric conditions.  He said that if what cars spew out were as visible as the smoke that we’ve been dealing with, then people would wear masks all the time.  I shall therefore be riding tomorrow.  Anyone care to join me?

By the way, I miss you guys!

Nick 🚴‍♂️

On Nov 19, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Vanessa McDonnell <vanessa@...> wrote:

Due to the continuing poor air quality tomorrow’s Tuesday Hills ride is cancelled. Per club rules the ride is now a show and go.

We have a lot to be thankful for but unfortunately our list doesn’t include air quality. 

V.
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