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Re: Wide Corners at Walnut

I think discouraging traffic is maybe a secondary goal; the whole point is to make it safer for cyclists and pedestrians, so reducing volume is probably also important for that purpose. I'm not

By mdavis94536 · #1475 ·

Re: Wide Corners at Walnut

Yes, I’ve noticed the traffic volume on Walnut is pretty light. It’s less of a speedway than it used to be.

By Michael Graff · #1474 ·

Re: Wide Corners at Walnut

Slowing traffic may be an explicit goal, but what about discouraging traffic? I live east of Mission between Mowry and Walnut, and now avoid driving on Walnut due to the new bike lanes and

By Gayle Tupper <gayletupper@...> · #1473 ·

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It should be noted (as perhaps some are implying) that slowing down traffic is an explicit goal.-- Mark

By mdavis94536 · #1471 ·

Re: Wide Corners at Walnut

The NextDoor complaints? They make people slow down. Apparently, they don’t like that. :D There are also comments as to how the streets are going to be kept clean now as noted here. I’m not a fan

By Marie Hughes · #1470 ·

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Motorists hate anything that they perceive as slowing them down. If they're happy, we're probably doing something wrong.

By Daniel Karpelevitch · #1469 ·

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The complaints about the bollards are so absurd. Do they ruin the view of the lovely asphalt? Vinnie Bacon e: vbacon@... p: 510-796-8870

By Vinnie Bacon · #1468 ·

Re: Wide Corners at Walnut

As a cyclist, I am not impressed with them as it seems there is more debris in the bike lanes, and the spacing is close enough that avoiding the debris requires a sharp turn into the car lane. It

By Andrew Sass · #1467 ·

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“Motorists on Nextdoor” are not our target audience. They don’t like anything ;)

By Michael Graff · #1466 ·

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The green bollards aren’t popular with the motorist who post on NextDoor. They bitch about them constantly! Marie

By Marie Hughes · #1465 ·

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Reminder, this thread started again because someone mentioned seeing near collision incidences on walnut in multiple occasions. If this project was so good, why are we hearing about this

By Seper D <ssd1354@...> · #1464 ·

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The green bollards are popular with everyone as far as I know. As for a solution for avid cyclists on Walnut - it already exists: ride in the car lane like we do on every other road without a

By Daniel Karpelevitch · #1463 ·

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Like many others I do not ride on Walnut any more, I tried a couple of times but gave up after having to stop and disembark multiple times for people walking in the wrong direction with headphones on.

By Shantanu Sen · #1462 ·

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The bike lane could be come a right-turn-only (except bikes) lane at the intersections. That solves the radius problem.

By Michael Graff · #1461 ·

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We already have a full-width trail on both sides of Walnut. But it’s split into a bike half and a ped half. It was a noble idea, but it doesn’t work as well as one wide path. (I’m guessing the

By Michael Graff · #1460 ·

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A class II bike lane would negate the speed-reduction benefit of the wide corners at the intersections. Turning cars crossing the bike lane effectively have a vastly increased turning radius, allowing

By Andreas Kadavanich · #1459 ·

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Michael, you are totally right that just making a bunch of rules will not be effective in separating bikes and pedestrians. However, I think the only reason the Alameda Creek Trail works where it does

By Daniel Karpelevitch · #1458 ·

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I think the point here is that cyclists are vulnerable to some degree no matter how fast, experienced, assertive, or responsible they are.

By Daniel Karpelevitch · #1457 ·

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True, but if you control for speed and aggressivenessassertiveness, you might find that they are no less vulnerable than the people riding beach bikes at 10 mi/h. -- Mark

By mdavis94536 · #1456 ·

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The number of club and race team members with decades of experience, exceptional bike handling skills, and responsibility who have been hit by cars should be enough to show that responsibility alone

By Daniel Karpelevitch · #1455 ·

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